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Project W Subject 013 ("Albert Wesker") ([personal profile] subject_013) wrote in [community profile] deernet2021-10-04 11:33 am

[Transmission 02] [Text] [UN: A_Wesker013] "This isn't exactly our normal operation."

My name is Dr. Adrian Winters, though some of you reading this may know me by another name.

I'm accustomed to seeking answers less directly. I'm accustomed to following the scientific route and seeking them in the field. But this is a case where the field is so outside my range of experience, I am at a loss as to where to start. I have a position as a journeyman Blood Minister at the Lumenarium, however I have a sense that my rational mind and approach are a handicap in this place.

How does one approach the magical when you hail from a world where magic does not appear to exist (but where things exist which appear wondrous or supernatural, until one finds the natural if strange cause that existed all along)? For those of you with similar origins, how have you managed to adapt? I regret to admit, I have the sense of the proverbial square peg in the round hole, which is far from a comfortable place to be.

And a far more concrete request. Does anyone have any spoiled food lurking in the depths of their ice box? I am willing to get it off your hands.
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[personal profile] deathrespect 2021-10-07 06:48 pm (UTC)(link)
I went from a place that operated on tech to a place with magic and demons. My main weapon didn't work anymore and I had to adjust to living in a fucking Japanese folktale horror story.

Can't say it was easy. It's not easy even here. But the people around me really helped, ya know? With a bunch of demon-possessed tools in the same boat as me it wasn't as bad as it could have been.

Sappy as fuck but there's my advice. Crew up, boss. Experiences and lessons from other people could help ya here.
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[personal profile] onerthes 2021-10-07 06:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Mmmm, Ah, "Doctor Winters." Good to hear from you again.

[She recognized the id, and part of her vaguely recalled the alternate name, or was she mistake? It didn't matter. The question was of interest.]

My recommendation would be a methodical, calculated approach. find a way to measure the energies involved. Some form of actually regimented value that you can measure. Once you have units of measure, you can start calculating the way in which they interact much more easily yes?

Even an alchemist has to figure out how many eyes of new that they need, after all. [She laughed softly.]
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[personal profile] cognitivus 2021-10-08 12:14 am (UTC)(link)
Why spoiled food?
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[personal profile] notimeforfailure 2021-10-08 12:27 am (UTC)(link)
I speak as somebody who has mastered the highest forms of magic in my land. Having spoken to scientists previously... I cannot say I find our practices to be so very dissimilar.

To perfect new spells, I develop modifications of incantations and spell glyphs based off what I know will succeed. Light magic uses a certain script; changes to the language result in changes to the way the spell manifests. To accomplish chemistry, one requires experimentation and observation. To accomplish magic is exactly the same.

In the end, everything works through a set of rules, even if one doesn't fully understand those rules.
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[personal profile] cognitivus 2021-10-08 10:14 am (UTC)(link)
Ah
I'd say I understand, but frankly I'm still trying to wrap my head around being here in the first place.

In terms of rationalizing the supernatural, I'd say there are two possible paths here. You can either look at it the way a caveman would look at an iPhone and call it the next stage in evolutionary science we just don't understand yet, or you could embrace insanity. I'm leaning toward the latter. Haven't decided yet.
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[personal profile] onerthes 2021-10-10 07:31 pm (UTC)(link)
[She made a mental note of the name change. She wasn't about to question it. It certainly fit the idea of an entirely new take on life, after all. Starting over.]

It can prove to be an over-simplification of the issues at stake, which is a danger, but so long as people are willing to learn the reality behind the dissembling it can work. The illustration is very much a similar translation I suppose, though defining the actual measurement can be valuable. "Mana" is a common unit of measurement of mystical energy, for example.

Ritual methodolgy usually helps when one is 'working' with their will. If they are using that strength of will to enact the ritual's intent, the belief in the efficacy of the ritual helps to make it grounded in reality. I actually think they're the opposite of helpful for you, because you have no belief in those rituals.

Perhaps craft your own rituals to suit your methodology?

[Very Mage the Ascension of her.]
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[personal profile] deathrespect 2021-10-10 09:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I've been around the block.

I think so too. It's nothing I did well with back home or in Hakagemachi. Can't say lonely sits well on me.
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[personal profile] cognitivus 2021-10-11 03:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Did you manage to fit yourself into its ecology in the time you were there?

I work in psychology. I guess you could say I have an understanding of things evolving and adapting to changing circumstances too, in a way. It's just a little less applicable to the whole blood thing.
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[personal profile] notimeforfailure 2021-10-13 10:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Light magic might be faith.

The rest is based on a series of calculations and an understanding of the essences comprising the natural world. For instance, fire magic is derived by drawing in the heat from external sources and concentrating it on a specific point.

I suppose you would call it... Reason.
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[personal profile] deathrespect 2021-10-14 11:33 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I can hope. I'm two out from home, though, haha.

You got a point. Kinda hard to put yourself out there, or whatever.
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[personal profile] onerthes 2021-10-14 05:37 pm (UTC)(link)
That is the thing with ritual, for those who use it. It relies on belief, which is tied to memory, reflection and assumption. Smells of the 'finest sandalwood' and incense imported are as much powerful because they are the thing that works for that person. It is similar to why some of my people rely on guns for their work, while others use staff or sword. Even parts preference and training, but each weapon capable in the right hands.

But that is 'will working' on its face. A great deal of magic is much more easily defined in clinical terms, particularly Alchemy. It is about quantifying the elements and energy sources involved, making sure the equipment is capable of housing them. I do believe there is a path forward for you, however, in determining the middle ground in this.

It will just take time.
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[personal profile] deathrespect 2021-10-17 06:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Word up.

Yeah, you said it. So much to get used to and settle into. Ugh.
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[personal profile] notimeforfailure 2021-10-18 01:24 am (UTC)(link)
More or less.

I was making a silly joke, by the way. Faith and Reason are what we call the two branches of magic in my world. Light magic is Faith, while everything else falls under the category of Reason.

Think of the spells as commands. We can give commands to each other in human language and - if everybody is amenable - expect a result. Spells are the language that the natural world can understand; the actual magical outcome depends on your level of proficiency speaking the language and making the command. Some people also just speak faster - or more coherently - or are more pleasant to listen to, so they have a natural aptitude.
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[personal profile] deathrespect 2021-10-24 11:20 am (UTC)(link)
I got shit at Lull to hold down but I can make time for you no problem.
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[personal profile] notimeforfailure 2021-10-24 05:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Light magic encompasses anything from healing to utility to magic specifically designed to destroy monsters. The theme can be 'benevolence,' I suppose. It's also called white magic. There exists dark magic as well, of course. It is rare where I come from.

It was a metaphor. Like anything else, some people are naturally talented, and some need to work to achieve even an adequate understanding. But everybody can learn some magic in my world if they spend enough time practicing.

I don't believe it has much of a connection with your natural charisma. More, perhaps... scholarship and logic.
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[personal profile] deathrespect 2021-10-27 07:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, man. Sounds good.
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[personal profile] onerthes 2021-11-05 04:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Heh, only in the lightest of senses my friend. [She kept up her mild amusement as they spoke.]

An eager and curious mind, when combined with healthy skepticism, is both very valuable in justifying the constant search for wisdom and further understanding, but at the same time frustrating because there are always variables, things that we can't be entirely sure about.

We have to start ferreting those variables out do we not?
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[personal profile] onerthes 2021-11-13 05:51 pm (UTC)(link)
[She blinked and then laughed, putting her hand to her lips.]

Oh, your friend is a bit of a ham, is he not? Sharona's still as quiet as ever. She never was one for the forefront.

You will keep me updated about how your progress goes, I imagine. Let us hope that you are successful, despite all of the variables we're dealing with. We just need to isolate the variables as soon as we find them.