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Ariadne ([personal profile] demonicbeauty) wrote in [community profile] deernet2022-08-04 10:40 am

[VOICE] UN: [username not set]

[Ariadne hasn't been able to show her face on the network--or in person, really--since her meltdown in July. But she's starting to come back, as it were. Only on voice because she can't quite bring herself to share all of her feelings.

Feelings that are very strong right now.]


I don't believe in revenge. It's a messy business that doesn't ultimately fix anything. You can't always undo a wrong.

You can, however, be better.

I say this for two reasons now. The first is that I urge all of you not to take revenge against the user who goes by the name "NoMercy" on the Omni network. I don't know who they are and I don't know how they've suffered. But hurting them isn't going to un-murder Ezra or Oscar or any of the others.

The second reason why I'm talking about revenge is that...I need to know what happened to Dean Winchester. I need to know who burned down his house, who killed him. And...I want to reassure you--anyone who's listening--that if you know something or if you were, in some way, responsible...I'm not going to hurt you.

I...I don't believe in revenge.

And that's...that's all, I guess.
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[personal profile] grice 2022-08-04 04:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Hate breeds hate.
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[personal profile] grice 2022-08-04 05:17 pm (UTC)(link)
[ it might be easier to talk this one out, he thinks— after a moment, falco switches from text to voice. on the other end is someone fairly young, male, but by the occasional crack of his voice, he's probably a teen. ]

I know it's hard for a lot of people to do, but . . . It makes a difference. Maybe the difference someone needs. I'm glad there're more people who think so.
hammerbearer: (Peturbed-Gaia)

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[personal profile] hammerbearer 2022-08-04 07:10 pm (UTC)(link)
[ The teen's voice is wary. Not closed-minded sounding at all. Just... wary. ]

I know a lot of people were influenced by the last moon and not acting as they should. But even they need to own up to their actions. Whether or not they didn't mean it and the whole 'we can't die permanently' doesn't mean they should get a pass.

I imagine you just mentioned Sleepers as well. What if they harmed or killed the local population?

[ This point Gaia wraps up with the actual question she wants to put out. ]

I'm not one for revenge either. And this goes for everyone, not just the person you're trying to defend.

What about justice? Or compensation for the damages? You say Dean had his entire home burned down and he was killed by someone else?

Wouldn't it be reasonable to expect some atonement in actual physical compensation from whomever did that? The same may well be said for your NoMercy by the people they harmed. And you don't even know who they are or if they would do this normally.

[ She adds one thing before finishing. ]

Sorry for getting caught up a bit. And yes, anyone is welcome to respond to this question too. Not just the person I'm talking to.

But, when you say 'no revenge' do you mean no consequences at all? And if so how do you think that's going to help?
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[personal profile] subject_013 2022-08-04 08:07 pm (UTC)(link)
As odd as it sounds since I've described myself as not a kind person, I don't believe in revenge, either. It's too driven by emotion and too easy to turn into a knee-jerk reaction.

Retribution, on the other hand, is another matter.
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[personal profile] grice 2022-08-04 08:14 pm (UTC)(link)
. . . Strange for not wanting to hurt them?
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sm0ll gaia eruption, sorry

[personal profile] hammerbearer 2022-08-04 10:03 pm (UTC)(link)
cw: mention/implied of the torture/torment/mass murder/etc ala Chara's Network Post

[ There seems to be a long pause before another response comes. Gaia went to read the related entries she missed while dealing with her own problems in July. And some of the attached threads. She finally responds to Ariadne. Her voice sounds more than a little shaken now. Thankfully this had not been a video communication. ]

I still don't believe in revenge. But are you out of your mind for trying to plead for that, for her?

[ Did she change her tune? Not exactly. She truly feels consequences and compensation are more important than the short term satisfaction of revenge. ]

You may think me going back on what I said. But people don't need to hear someone treating that like it was even worth the same level of consideration of some moon-fueled arsonist and burglary gone wrong!

[ The words burst forth from the shaken teen. It's clear what she saw was terrible for her. ]

If you want to save her from corruption, go save her. If she's like that to begin with, stop her. Don't just put up a post about pleading for people not to take revenge and let people pat you on the back for your efforts at stating what they don't like to see either!

Even a lot of the people who actually responded to her, what is wrong with you. If you know her, and you're capable, go deal with it. Stop chatting on the omni like it has nothing to do with you! Or flinging threats for her to laugh at, for that matter!

[ Gaia sucks in a deep breath that sounds a bit like she's trying not to go to tears. She's not the sort that cries! ]

And if you're just going to all sit back and settle it out on the Omni like this, then don't be surprised if someone goes for revenge before you can 'be better'. [ Yeah that was unsurprisingly mocking. ] I might not like it, but I'd hardly blame them.

Also don't be surprised when some of the justice looks and sounds a lot like revenge. Because how can anyone compensate for that level of horror?
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[personal profile] hammerbearer 2022-08-05 12:46 am (UTC)(link)
I never said it had to be about murder, revenge or otherwise.

[ Gaia's response has been immediate this time. ]

Frankly I don't care what Mother Superior would want, if it's the right thing to do. Whether it's saving that girl from being forced to commit those acts or stopping her because that's how she is.

You've got the energy to argue with me about not going for revenge, why not turn it on finding a solution that won't need it?
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[personal profile] hammerbearer 2022-08-05 03:26 am (UTC)(link)
[ There is a distinct hrmph noise. ]

You know how to think don't you? [ She sounds young, but the tone indicates a no-nonsense attitude. ] You have friends? People you know might be able to champion your cause? So use your words to gather like minds and help them think of a way to confront the problem so it stops being a problem. Don't just leave it at a suggestion not to go for revenge or what have you.

[ The tone shifts to a somewhat tart mannerism. ]

Whoever gave you the impression that you're helpless just because you've got words was wrong.

[ Gaia does leave the impression that goes especially if that person was Ariadne herself. ]
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[personal profile] hammerbearer 2022-08-05 04:43 am (UTC)(link)
[ The teen is standing her ground. ]

You just said you've only got your words to sway hearts and minds away from revenge like there was nothing else. If you can do more, then that's certainly no excuse.

[ Gaia then scoffs softly. ]

Of course I don't know much at all about the situation other than what's been posted. If you're going to want me to make any suggestions you're going to have to actually tell me what most of this is even about. And not over the network by the way. Never know when this is private or not.

[ Sure the conversation could have gone to a more private 'thread' by this time. But after that month with the omens broadcasting memories, she's definitely wary of talking about anything over what she'd constitute an open channel. ]

I'm not going to let you push the lead off on me about this either, just so you know. You want this girl to be saved or brought to justice, you're the one that gets to take charge. I'll hear what you have to say in person and give suggestions or help if I have the ability to do so. But I'm not promising anything more.
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[personal profile] survivalthroughhate 2022-08-05 04:55 am (UTC)(link)
Be better. That's what I keep hearing, over and over again. [Maul laughs but there is no humor in the brief sound.] Sometimes, taking mere revenge upon people is doing better instead of a full-blown massacre. Not that most "good people" ever see it as such. All they see is a monster or a rabid animal that needs to be put down for the sake of everyone else.
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[personal profile] subject_013 2022-08-05 05:21 am (UTC)(link)
[He chuckles, sinister but even just a tiny bit nervous.]

A fitting image, like an iron fist in a silk glove.

The problem is, there are times when justice itself can corrupt into revenge with the backing of the law or the government.

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[personal profile] the_obedient_servant 2022-08-05 05:26 am (UTC)(link)
...To clarify, I didn't kill Dean Winchester.

[Like, just in case that was unclear.]

I also don't know who did.
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[personal profile] grice 2022-08-05 12:51 pm (UTC)(link)
It's not about being squeamish, really . . .

[ it's just wrong. ]
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[personal profile] strikefirster 2022-08-05 03:24 pm (UTC)(link)
This shit isn't just about revenge.

They're taking the lessons I taught and are warping the shit out of them.

Or maybe they were always a little fucking twisted. Either way I'm taking responsibility for the shit they're pulling.

If that means I have to knock some fucking sense into a little prick than that's just how it's going to be.

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