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うちはサスケ ([personal profile] retsuden) wrote in [community profile] deernet2022-01-12 04:31 pm

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[ There has been a great deal of things that Sasuke has learned about in the few weeks he's been here just from talking to new people. All of them have been extremely confusing concepts, like therapy and the idea that people take care of children when they don't have anyone else to take care of them.

Some of these conversations where he's learned things have ended in more questions than answers. He could ask for more clarification from the few he's already made contact with, but the more possible answers he can get, the better. He thinks.

He hopes.

This could be a mistake. ]


How would you suggest someone improve their communication skills?

If your go to response is "talk to people", spare me. I'm only interested in more thorough answers.
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[personal profile] onerthes 2022-01-13 07:31 pm (UTC)(link)
[God, he was as bad as Ladius in some ways. She sighed and pinched the bridge of her nose. This was going to be a process, she could just feel it.]

To tell you the truth? There's probably a lot of people you won't ever actually care about if you're not on a mission together. There just are. But that doesn't mean everyone is like that. There are still people whose company you might come to appreciate after the mission is done.

You can never know who those are, if you don't listen to them with the intent of knowing things about them that have nothing to do with weaknesses, advantages, military training and the like. Part of communicating is listening to what 'they' care to talk about, not what 'you' need to learn from them.

Are you ever curious about 'why' people do things?
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[personal profile] onerthes 2022-01-13 07:48 pm (UTC)(link)
[Yes, but he was the one who was asking... GAH! Stubborn boy.]

Well yes, if you want to be alone most of your life, that's probably pretty effective. That would put anyone who wasn't devoted to you off the trail pretty quickly. But now you're asking how to communicate better.

So, now you can't actually say that you don't actually care to know. Because you want to know how to communicate better with others. You have to actually start to care to know.
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[personal profile] onerthes 2022-01-13 07:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh gods, I'd say "Why didn't you just fucking say so" but you switched this to private. That means you must not want this person to know this is about them. Gah. Well, first off, I do think you need to pull your head out of your ass a little and get to know a few people in town. But that's a personal opinion. Take that as you will.

I'm NOT the best person to help with this, but I can help as much as I'm able. First of all, what problem are you having with them. And, just as importantly, are you intimate with this person?
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[personal profile] onerthes 2022-01-13 08:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Welcome to Trench, Sasuke. A city where survival depends on keeping your friends close, and the idiots closer, so they don't drag us all down with them.

Ok, so this is a friend, not someone you are romantically interested in. Alright. I'm going to assume the complications are part of the problem, but we're going to talk about your communication skills. When you try to speak with them, you're obviously NOT on a mission right now. How do you try to talk to them?

Do you ask them how their day was, at least, when you see them? Take an interest in what they did, share a little of what you did?
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[personal profile] onerthes 2022-01-13 08:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Right. Once again. You're not on assignment. But you're also checking in every night, so include with your check ins a wellness check. Are they ok? Did they have trouble? This place can be dangerous at times, so start by seeing if anything bad or good happened to them. Ease into asking "So how was your day."

Are they as bad at this as you are?


[...]

Would you like me to give you a "Theoretical" discussion about how this might be complicated if the two of you secretly wanted to share a bed, but weren't doing so currently?

Not that this is happening. No, this isn't happening. You're only asking me hypotheticals because I mentioned them. Clearly.


[She really wanted to punch him right now. This was like pulling teeth.]
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[personal profile] onerthes 2022-01-13 08:57 pm (UTC)(link)
[...]

You know what? That's fair. I shouldn't. Let me rephrase.

Would you like a hypothetical explanation of if you two both harbor feelings for each other, but have not acted on them yet?

Sex aside, because that just intensifies the emotional topics. It doesn't actually change them much.
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[personal profile] onerthes 2022-01-13 09:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Alright. You and this girl are in love. But, where she is able to relate to others, and cares openly and deeply for many people? You are a person who is focused on the task at hand, the work that is put before you and you have trouble relating to people outside of that work.

Yet, you want to communicate better. That's an indication that you feel 'something' for her, even if you really aren't prepared to handle it. You're trained to kill, to fight, to whatever it is you're trained for. War's just common. You know that. You don't know love.

My first suggestion is that you speak to her the way that you do. bluntly. Candidly. Directly. Don't try to be someone else, because you can't, and if she fell in love with you, she fell in love with who you are. Not who you'd want to be for her. that's a starting point.

Try to openly, directly, one night ask her to listen and tell her that you want to try and communicate better. Go ahead and feel awkward about it because it's going to be awkward as fucking hell. Tell her that you're not good at this, but that you want to try to get better at it with her. Don't say "I love you" or anything like that. take your time with that. Start by asking what she might be comfortable talking about, that isn't "Status report. trench. day 12 of being trapped in this insane city. Encountered new people. Blood corruption appears to be..."

Each of us communicates differently, but if she's already got emotions wrapped up around you, and you've got any wrapped up around inside, the starting point is to admit to yourself you have them? And then tell her you want to be better at this.

From there, we can get into some of the rest. But this is where I suggest you start. As you, unable to speak about any emotions or desires outside of the mission at all, telling someone you've worked with that you would like to talk about something else with them.
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[personal profile] onerthes 2022-01-13 09:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes. Feelings can change over time. It depends exactly how much she fell for you, and how much you fell for her. Some people only ever love once in their life, and they can't even envision another, and the mere sight of them rekindles confusing thoughts. Some? They move on, willing to try again and again until they find someone that they can be happy with. I do not know her, so I won't pretend to know.

But you could absolutely phrase this as "I want to rebuild our working relationship, after years of working apart. So, would you help build back our team camaraderie?" Or something similar. You could even phrase it as 'to be a better teammate' to start, move to friend, and let the rest come from there.

In this hypothetical, it might even be in character for you to start by phrasing it as 'being a better teammate' or something. No offense, but you don't seem the sort to get down on your knees one moonlit night and confess your feelings to someone.
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[personal profile] onerthes 2022-01-14 10:55 pm (UTC)(link)
One free, unsolicited bit of advice. Romance is almost never practical. Emotions don't work like that a lot of times, but I imagine if this "hypothetical" is real, you are already potentially learning that.

Good luck to both of you.